Curse

mage767 · Jun 02, 2011, 07:52 AM // 07:52

NO wiki allowed
NO elite tomes allowed
NO texmod allowed

This includes using Wiki for capping elite skills, knowing pathway for dungeons or missions.

Let's see if you can max 4 carto titles and 4 leg skill hunter titles...with this massive handicap

cataphract · Jun 02, 2011, 08:10 AM // 08:10

Elite tomes fall into the "no tomes" rule from the first post.
No texmod will not be an issue as two of my legendary cartographers never used it.
No Wiki will hurt the most. Not because of missions and dungeons but because of skill locations. That would be the biggest handicap. Missions and dungeons are easier to navigate than having to memorize skills and spawn locations of bosses.

Verene · Jun 02, 2011, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataphract

All my skill hunters were funded through play. Spending 1k on CapSig is of no importance to the title since you get that 1k from drops on the way to the boss. In most cases anyway - Canthan bosses camping outside outposts are an exception but they're few that money for Skill Hunter never becomes an issue.

Biggest problems with Skill Hunter is the time it takes to fight your way to the boss, zone back, zone somewhere else and repeat the process. Add some frustration when capping skills in Tyria. Randomly spawned bosses are a pain.

Yeah - Skill Hunter might seem expensive at first...but really, it's damn cheap. You're not spending ~300k all at once, you're generally spending a few k at a time, and you make that up pretty fast. Do you plan on purchasing signets of capture in bulk to make up for the "no storage" and hence the small gold cap?

And yeah, the time and frustration for capping skills is why I'll probably never do it (I hate randomly spawned bosses). Thankfully I'm not interested in GWAMM

cataphract · Jun 02, 2011, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verene

Do you plan on purchasing signets of capture in bulk to make up for the "no storage" and hence the small gold cap?

Didn't give that any thought before you mentioned it.

Guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

*crosses fingers for tomorrow's online store offer* Go Character slot, go!

Doven · Jun 02, 2011, 05:26 PM // 17:26

haha..

and here i thought you already started for some reason.

been working my mesmer through old asc and surrounding areas. drew a match at the academy i logged out for as to save my pidly 16k exp for survivor lol.. but hey. trying to get as many quests done just in general and open up as many outposts as well..

lets just say i am reminded on how much I hate bugs. the vale won't come quick enough!

and neither will that discounted char slot.. time to make some room kid!

cheers
d

Verene · Jun 02, 2011, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataphract

Didn't give that any thought before you mentioned it.

Guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

*crosses fingers for tomorrow's online store offer* Go Character slot, go!

It's probably not the best solution for how to handle money, but if you want to do Skill Hunter, doing that could be useful.

Character slots are on sale this week, go go go!

Doven · Jun 02, 2011, 09:59 PM // 21:59

well well.. if thats not a sign from the gw gods i don't know what is.. lol

gogogo!

d

tummlykins · Jun 03, 2011, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataphract

A few days ago I found myself thinking of making a new gwamm character since, obviously, four are not enough to my messed-up mind. Because achieving 30 maxed titles requires only time I started thinking on how to make it a bit more challenging. What I came up was this:

1) Create a Prophecies character.
2) Do not use tomes. Only use currently available skills.
3) Do not use storage. Equip yourself purely by drops and quest rewards. Sell tomes to other players.
4) Play and finish GW chapters in their chronological order.
5) Before moving on to the next chapter get all bonuses/master rewards in missions.
6) Start Hard Mode only after Normal mode in all chapters and EotN has been beaten.
7) Max titles to get GWAMM.
8) Do it without dying once.

Does all this sound doable? Please share your thoughts and comments on how to make the challenge more... Challenging.

The only difficult thing in there would be doing it without dieing. Everything else you mentioned is basically how GW is played by everyone. Like I said, the only challenge in there is doing it without dieing, the rest of it just sounds like playing the game (although it's slightly easier because several older skills have been buffed since people did it five years ago).

On top of all that you have heroes and henchmen with bars that aren't terrible, unlike old school Alesia which was the real HM.

cataphract · Jun 03, 2011, 06:11 AM // 06:11

I don't think everyone plays without storage, tomes and no shortcuts to get some heroes asap but I could be wrong.

tummlykins · Jun 03, 2011, 07:02 AM // 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataphract

I don't think everyone plays without storage, tomes and no shortcuts to get some heroes asap but I could be wrong.

Storage was irrelevent when you began, there was nothing in there to begin with. Tomes weren't added until HM was... which was after most people had completed Nightfall... and well didn't really matter because they were playing through Prophecies and Factions in chronological order anyways (and thus already access to all skills with the exception of elites).

Basically what I'm saying is you are playing the game the way most people who have played the game for 6 years played it when content was introduced, heroes, tomes, new skills, ammassed fortunes, all these things didn't exhist when people played the game the first time through, once you obtained a max weapon (which doesn't even matter for casters) you basically didn't develop your character much more simply. The only difference is better skill bars on henchmen now and the no dieing thing (which I personally think isn't going to happen, you won't be able to farm the things you need to farm in the amounts you need to do them without dieing once unless you spend an absurd amount of time being super cautious).

Eternal Equinox · Jun 03, 2011, 07:04 AM // 07:04

This sounds utterly pointless.

cataphract · Jun 03, 2011, 10:15 AM // 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by tummlykins

Basically what I'm saying is you are playing the game the way most people who have played the game for 6 years played it when content was introduced...

And that's, basically, what I've said on several occasions here in this very thread.

cataphract · Jun 04, 2011, 10:07 AM // 10:07

The challenge has started. I've made an ele. Kajusbnous decided to join me in this challenge and he made a monk.

Here's a picture of level 5 Isabell Evans and her pro skillbar:

Ryden77 · Jun 04, 2011, 10:44 AM // 10:44

Just Wanna add an idea to your challenge:
Not using fast travel, force you to do areas one at a Time(cargo and vq).
If you accept this well...gl

Olle · Jun 04, 2011, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryden77

Just Wanna add an idea to your challenge:
Not using fast travel, force you to do areas one at a Time(cargo and vq).
If you accept this well...gl

So you mean if i got Proph done and wanna go to ascalon for an quest..i gotta run all the way back from..Droks?
Nothanks.

we're starting with LDoA,ill post my monk soon!

Bright Star Shine · Jun 04, 2011, 01:33 PM // 13:33

Gl guys, if you need any help with anything (not in Ascalon etc, but like, when doing HM missions) feel free to pm me, if I'm free I'd be glad to tag along with my ssin that also needs guardian

No runs will be offered, and no help except teaming up^^ Gotta keep it fair.

Axeman002 · Jun 04, 2011, 03:25 PM // 15:25

get it done and you will still have a gap year till GW2 is released lmao

but gl with it..i had similar plan to get LDOA then the rest as you are doing (but using chest)

Hugh Jarse · Jun 04, 2011, 03:27 PM // 15:27

I'll keep reading for your log of events. One thing I regret on my GWAAM was not keeping a such a log. I had a nice piece of music in mind for a video diary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoLJJRIWCLU Sadly my IT skills suck more than my PVP. Good luck

shady tradesman · Jun 06, 2011, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Here's a challenge: Complete this while nurturing a healthy relationship and job.

Martin Alvito · Jun 06, 2011, 01:25 AM // 01:25

Tedious ("Hard") Mode is already tedious. I can't see why you'd want to add to the tedium.

Any item on the list melissa b posted will add to the challenge far more than any item on the original list other than the deaths restriction. The limiting condition will be getting through the stickier bits in Hard Mode without taking a dirt nap. Other players, PvE skills and cons will make a very large difference in the level of risk you take on to pull that off.